So Orlando goes back to court on February 26th, 2009. Over the last few months and within the last few days, I have faxed various things to the child support office to dispute his bleeding heart case of "I can't find a job" & "I don't have a car". The man has never owned a car and thats in 17 years so why should that effect the support I get now. I googled over 50 places within a 1.5 mile radius of his house so they are within decent walking distance. Half of those jobs require no experience so he should have no excuses for not applying for them.
Back to the court date...... I couldn't attend this one but I figured with all the information I have sent to their office they were painfully aware that I want this man to pay or go to jail.. So they gave him the option for an attorney which is of course his rights but also the biggest waste of tax dollars today. If he had a decent reason for paying then he wouldn't need an attorney, but rights are rights aaight. So Laura calls and gives me a funny for the day. It turns out they appointed her to his case. She of course had to turn it down because shes my sister and all but I don't know who he has acquired. Put his ass in jail. He shoulda been there anyway.
Again, we play the wait to get paid game............
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Monday, March 2, 2009
Monday, January 12, 2009
Tony's Christmas Present
I guess I should be grateful that the man thought of my son at all. The first time he has brought Tony a physical present in close to a decade. He showed up unannounced at our home, I wasn't there. Tony was home with a friend and they were watchin movies and watnot. Tony made him stand outside because he new there would be hell to pay if he had let him in. Orlando gave him 3 presents. Turned out to be socks, wifebeaters, a sketch pad and a pack of colored pencils. The only thing that even suggested he knew Tony was the sketch pad and pencils but Orlando's new son-in-law is in Tony's Art class so Tony didn't give him any credit for knowledge.
To no avail, I haven't seen a dime, Im sure he is still crying unemployed. Who gets married without a job? Certainly not I.
Friday, January 2, 2009
Jan 2nd & Still No Money
I just wanted to air dirty laundry. When I re-read these, I was extremely nice for me regarding him and when I re-read his response it only ills me worse.
Subject: Tony
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:23:59 -0500
From: RSO
To: orlando-hall@hotmail.com
Orlando,
Tony now officially gets nothing from the state down to the fact that he no longer qualifies for free-lunch. So that means I am paying for Insurance, school lunches, school clothes, Christmas, 15th Birthday Party and putting some money back to get the boy a car among every day living expenses. Im asking directly that you start helping him get thru life Orlando. I have never ever asked you for anything. There is only one income paying the bills at my house and it is me and its tight right now. I didn't care nearly as much when someone else was footing the responsibilities that you should be handling but since July, I have been handling them on my own and I AM TIRED.
I realize that you are unemployed, but I know that if you needed or wanted a job today, I could get you on at Sagebrush and have connections at other places. What I don't want to see is you making money under the table working on motorcycles and then me having to go to court only to find out that you claim unemployment. Im 100% positive that you smoke both cigs and greens when you want to, you drink your 40's or whatever is your drink of choice when you want to and you do and go wherever you want, you buy yourself namebrand clothes and when you see your kids you wonder for one second why they feel the way they do, well they see you got more than they got and you don't give a flip what they do or don't have. What they see is that you put you 1st and they know just like you know that behavior is WRONG.
You can afford weapons, you can afford to go to Honda Hoot, you can afford to ride around on a motorcycle, you can afford to be unemployed at Christmas time and be taken care of, you can afford all of these things and do it with no conscious of what your kids have or don't have. It means nothing to you. You need to work anywhere during this holiday season and help out your blood Orlando, we need the help during this month most of all and I know that you feel like cooking is beneath you now, but it is what it is and I NEED HELP.
I hope you don't take this request lightly. Im serious when I say I am tired and you may have gotten out of trouble because you are proving being at that Career Center, but it isn't helping me feed, cloth or provide for your son, so my understanding is completely gone and I will be a permanent fixture at that Child Support office being one of those women that they can't stand to hear her voice because Im calling down there wondering why something isn't being done. I should mention that I plan to have Laura come to court with me in February so that Im sure Im heard, she is now a Juvenile Attorney located to the right of the courthouse. Im serious when I say Im tired of playing this money game with you. I need help and if you aren't going to be father enough just to give me the minimum then I am going to have to step up the game plan.
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From: Orlando Hall [mailto:orlando-hall@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:56 PM
To: Reese, Stephanie A (RSO)
Subject: RE: Tony
I get that your upset (I doubt that)but what you dont know and probably dont care to know is that I can't work or get unemployment because the Social Security office has me listed as dead since 2004(So I wonder why his children haven't been receiving payment for his legally dead self for 4 years) and the unemployment office says there are 2 social security numbers listed for me. I have been trying to get this fixed since September and they still haven't gotten it fixed--so i have no money coming in. I have been out everyday walking (I live a mile from this man and I have never seen him walking)and putting in applications everywhere and no one has offered me a job. I don't have transportation--the bike is wrecked and undriveable(It looked just fine the month you went to Honda Hoot), so it's not as easy as you make it out to be(Its not that its easy, its that you aren't taking the jobs you don't want at a time when nobody is hiring) that i can go and get a job anywhere, because i have been trying since I got laid off in Sept.
Yes, I know I have responsbilities to all of my kids and no matter what you or anyone else thinks I am trying. No, I dont go out and do whatever I want--I gave that up a long time ago. I go to school 2 nights a week and the rest of the time i am at home. (Im so tired of hearing about you going to school, you been in school now for 10 years) Your not the only one who is struggling this time of the year (No,but Im struggling worse because of you), I'm not going to ask Angie to pay my child support and take away from Tre, bills and food here. It's not her job, its mine and Im not taking this lightly. (I never wanted Angies money, its bad enough she is footing you as a bill as well)
All I can do is what i have been, applying for jobs that are within walking distance of our house and trying to get this mess cleared up so i can work and work legally.
I do have some gifts for Tony if he wants them. He and Tre talk during one of their classes and i was going to have Tre ask him if he wanted them, you can do that and let me know. It's not a lot but its something. (Its Jan 2nd, do you think Tony has gotten a gift, a birthday present, hell even a phone call, NOPE)
O
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From: Reese, Stephanie A (RSO)
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:35 PM
To: 'Orlando Hall'
Subject: RE: Tony
Importance: Low
I don't want Angie to pay your support, I would never pay another child's support so I feel you and her there. I have never been one to really harp on you about the money, just sit back and think ill will of you is all, but it has come a time where I can no longer function and do all of this by myself. And yes, I do get angry when my son asks for stuff and I can't give it to him. He doesn't ask for much that is out of my reach until this time of the year because of his birthday and this year is more of a struggle for me so yes I am mad about it. He works Orlando, he works all them home games for UT and he does this for extras. He is really angry with you. I don't think you would get the reaction you wanted from him unless you approached him face to face and even then it would take several times of that. Sometimes, no most of the time, I don't think you realize what a gem you have in Tony Hall. He will go to college, he will make something out of himself, he is responsible and he is the child that was named after you, your first born and now that 15 years has passed us by, what does that really mean to you. I just don't know. He excels in school all A's & B's, he takes CAD and is exceptional in his fine arts class, thats the funny thing, if you guys could ever find common ground I think you would do well in a relationship, but both of you would have to get past your issues first, his issues being anger, yours being you don't like it when people are angry at you or having to feel guilty.
I'm not trying to argue with you or contradict you on they why's of which you can't work. What I will say is this. Every time I have seen you, you have been driving Angies car. I shared a vehicle with my ex for over 2 years and that meant one of us worked days and the other worked nights and when that didn't happen, he was riding with co-workers. I do understand all the other stuff too. Been there done that so I know that it takes extra efforts but it can be done. Im angry with reason and I don't feel like you will ever understand that.
I heard about the being dead and social security mix up stuff. I am in the midst of working with Nashville on my own namesake issues as well so I do know of how that can be time consuming. What I don't know is how it can prevent you from holding a job.
Hell if you are clean, I can get you hooked up with any of the local union halls for a job, I have been doing this here for over 3 years and I know a collection of people that matter here. There won't be any jobs here until February because they don't hire during the holidays and the locals aren't putting recs out until February but its manual labor. If you are up for it, just let me know. Laborers top out at 16, Operators @ 22, Electricians @ 25 and so on. You can be an apprentice for any or all of these but its 6:30 a.m. - 5:30 p.m. M-F and usually when the money is good around here there is 10 hours of overtime.
When I think of school, I get angry too Orlando, don't think I didn't want to go back to school. I could be all kinds of things in this world with an education but I have had to work my butt off an fight hard to get what I get now. I didn't have the opportunities of being childless. If I had half the opportunities you have had, I wouldn't be sweating so badly so when you mention the school thing, yes I do hope it works out for you but know I harbor some green envy that its you going and not me.
You know most of the time, I think that missing out on Tony's life is totally a loss for you. One you regret more so now than ever. Tony spends a lot of time acting all hard when really he is a big softie. He has had some rough years and we are now in a good relationship where things aren't so off kilter. He hates when I cry because I don't have lunch money for the day, he hates asking me for movie money on a Friday night because he has spent his own, he hates it when I cry because he wants that new pair of shoes that I simply can't afford and thats when he thinks of you and what do you think comes next. In his mind, you take care of Tre and you left him behind to fend for himself. Thats what he thinks Orlando and put yourself in his shoes, why shouldn't he think that. I googled you address to mine, you live .7 miles from our house. Thats not even a mile. What do you think he thinks about that? If you want a relationship with your son, you are going to have to find a way to do it. I wouldn't probably be half the beeyotch I am today, if you and Tony didn't have no relationship at all and he didn't feel like you don't love him, want to be a father to him or to support him. Thats what probably burns me up the most.
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Subject: Tony
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 10:23:59 -0500
From: RSO
To: orlando-hall@hotmail.com
Orlando,
Tony now officially gets nothing from the state down to the fact that he no longer qualifies for free-lunch. So that means I am paying for Insurance, school lunches, school clothes, Christmas, 15th Birthday Party and putting some money back to get the boy a car among every day living expenses. Im asking directly that you start helping him get thru life Orlando. I have never ever asked you for anything. There is only one income paying the bills at my house and it is me and its tight right now. I didn't care nearly as much when someone else was footing the responsibilities that you should be handling but since July, I have been handling them on my own and I AM TIRED.
I realize that you are unemployed, but I know that if you needed or wanted a job today, I could get you on at Sagebrush and have connections at other places. What I don't want to see is you making money under the table working on motorcycles and then me having to go to court only to find out that you claim unemployment. Im 100% positive that you smoke both cigs and greens when you want to, you drink your 40's or whatever is your drink of choice when you want to and you do and go wherever you want, you buy yourself namebrand clothes and when you see your kids you wonder for one second why they feel the way they do, well they see you got more than they got and you don't give a flip what they do or don't have. What they see is that you put you 1st and they know just like you know that behavior is WRONG.
You can afford weapons, you can afford to go to Honda Hoot, you can afford to ride around on a motorcycle, you can afford to be unemployed at Christmas time and be taken care of, you can afford all of these things and do it with no conscious of what your kids have or don't have. It means nothing to you. You need to work anywhere during this holiday season and help out your blood Orlando, we need the help during this month most of all and I know that you feel like cooking is beneath you now, but it is what it is and I NEED HELP.
I hope you don't take this request lightly. Im serious when I say I am tired and you may have gotten out of trouble because you are proving being at that Career Center, but it isn't helping me feed, cloth or provide for your son, so my understanding is completely gone and I will be a permanent fixture at that Child Support office being one of those women that they can't stand to hear her voice because Im calling down there wondering why something isn't being done. I should mention that I plan to have Laura come to court with me in February so that Im sure Im heard, she is now a Juvenile Attorney located to the right of the courthouse. Im serious when I say Im tired of playing this money game with you. I need help and if you aren't going to be father enough just to give me the minimum then I am going to have to step up the game plan.
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From: Orlando Hall [mailto:orlando-hall@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:56 PM
To: Reese, Stephanie A (RSO)
Subject: RE: Tony
I get that your upset (I doubt that)but what you dont know and probably dont care to know is that I can't work or get unemployment because the Social Security office has me listed as dead since 2004(So I wonder why his children haven't been receiving payment for his legally dead self for 4 years) and the unemployment office says there are 2 social security numbers listed for me. I have been trying to get this fixed since September and they still haven't gotten it fixed--so i have no money coming in. I have been out everyday walking (I live a mile from this man and I have never seen him walking)and putting in applications everywhere and no one has offered me a job. I don't have transportation--the bike is wrecked and undriveable(It looked just fine the month you went to Honda Hoot), so it's not as easy as you make it out to be(Its not that its easy, its that you aren't taking the jobs you don't want at a time when nobody is hiring) that i can go and get a job anywhere, because i have been trying since I got laid off in Sept.
Yes, I know I have responsbilities to all of my kids and no matter what you or anyone else thinks I am trying. No, I dont go out and do whatever I want--I gave that up a long time ago. I go to school 2 nights a week and the rest of the time i am at home. (Im so tired of hearing about you going to school, you been in school now for 10 years) Your not the only one who is struggling this time of the year (No,but Im struggling worse because of you), I'm not going to ask Angie to pay my child support and take away from Tre, bills and food here. It's not her job, its mine and Im not taking this lightly. (I never wanted Angies money, its bad enough she is footing you as a bill as well)
All I can do is what i have been, applying for jobs that are within walking distance of our house and trying to get this mess cleared up so i can work and work legally.
I do have some gifts for Tony if he wants them. He and Tre talk during one of their classes and i was going to have Tre ask him if he wanted them, you can do that and let me know. It's not a lot but its something. (Its Jan 2nd, do you think Tony has gotten a gift, a birthday present, hell even a phone call, NOPE)
O
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From: Reese, Stephanie A (RSO)
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:35 PM
To: 'Orlando Hall'
Subject: RE: Tony
Importance: Low
I don't want Angie to pay your support, I would never pay another child's support so I feel you and her there. I have never been one to really harp on you about the money, just sit back and think ill will of you is all, but it has come a time where I can no longer function and do all of this by myself. And yes, I do get angry when my son asks for stuff and I can't give it to him. He doesn't ask for much that is out of my reach until this time of the year because of his birthday and this year is more of a struggle for me so yes I am mad about it. He works Orlando, he works all them home games for UT and he does this for extras. He is really angry with you. I don't think you would get the reaction you wanted from him unless you approached him face to face and even then it would take several times of that. Sometimes, no most of the time, I don't think you realize what a gem you have in Tony Hall. He will go to college, he will make something out of himself, he is responsible and he is the child that was named after you, your first born and now that 15 years has passed us by, what does that really mean to you. I just don't know. He excels in school all A's & B's, he takes CAD and is exceptional in his fine arts class, thats the funny thing, if you guys could ever find common ground I think you would do well in a relationship, but both of you would have to get past your issues first, his issues being anger, yours being you don't like it when people are angry at you or having to feel guilty.
I'm not trying to argue with you or contradict you on they why's of which you can't work. What I will say is this. Every time I have seen you, you have been driving Angies car. I shared a vehicle with my ex for over 2 years and that meant one of us worked days and the other worked nights and when that didn't happen, he was riding with co-workers. I do understand all the other stuff too. Been there done that so I know that it takes extra efforts but it can be done. Im angry with reason and I don't feel like you will ever understand that.
I heard about the being dead and social security mix up stuff. I am in the midst of working with Nashville on my own namesake issues as well so I do know of how that can be time consuming. What I don't know is how it can prevent you from holding a job.
Hell if you are clean, I can get you hooked up with any of the local union halls for a job, I have been doing this here for over 3 years and I know a collection of people that matter here. There won't be any jobs here until February because they don't hire during the holidays and the locals aren't putting recs out until February but its manual labor. If you are up for it, just let me know. Laborers top out at 16, Operators @ 22, Electricians @ 25 and so on. You can be an apprentice for any or all of these but its 6:30 a.m. - 5:30 p.m. M-F and usually when the money is good around here there is 10 hours of overtime.
When I think of school, I get angry too Orlando, don't think I didn't want to go back to school. I could be all kinds of things in this world with an education but I have had to work my butt off an fight hard to get what I get now. I didn't have the opportunities of being childless. If I had half the opportunities you have had, I wouldn't be sweating so badly so when you mention the school thing, yes I do hope it works out for you but know I harbor some green envy that its you going and not me.
You know most of the time, I think that missing out on Tony's life is totally a loss for you. One you regret more so now than ever. Tony spends a lot of time acting all hard when really he is a big softie. He has had some rough years and we are now in a good relationship where things aren't so off kilter. He hates when I cry because I don't have lunch money for the day, he hates asking me for movie money on a Friday night because he has spent his own, he hates it when I cry because he wants that new pair of shoes that I simply can't afford and thats when he thinks of you and what do you think comes next. In his mind, you take care of Tre and you left him behind to fend for himself. Thats what he thinks Orlando and put yourself in his shoes, why shouldn't he think that. I googled you address to mine, you live .7 miles from our house. Thats not even a mile. What do you think he thinks about that? If you want a relationship with your son, you are going to have to find a way to do it. I wouldn't probably be half the beeyotch I am today, if you and Tony didn't have no relationship at all and he didn't feel like you don't love him, want to be a father to him or to support him. Thats what probably burns me up the most.
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Monday, December 8, 2008
Child Support Court Failed Us Again
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| From Reese v/s Hall Child Support Court December 4th, 2008 |
I find it utterly disgusting that I took a day off to attend court at the advice of one of the Child Support Reps. so that I could specifically plead for jail time for the Infamous NCP of my son Tony. I should have known something was up when a) Orlando didn't show up and b) I was actually feeling one ounce of vindication coming on. So Im sitting there and Im getting this general paperwork session. The lady looks back and says Hall, Mam we dealt with Hall this morning and I say "Oh don't tell me, he got off scott free with no jail time like does everytime". At this time, she realized that a) I was NOT HAPPY and b) They were going to have to apologize for one more mistake made on my case. You see when Baby Daddy has multiple Baby Mamaz they are supposed to schedule you at the same time so that they can handle all of your cases at once. Whichever Baby Mama had the 9:00 a.m. appointment probably didn't care as much as I do about getting her money so she simply agreed that he was pitfully trying to seek out work. Orlando has been to Motorcyle Mechanics Institute where he apparently has some kind of a degree allowing him to work on motorcycles. This does him absolutely no good here in TN where motorcycles aren't as prevelent as they are on the coast. I went for some years with little to no child support so that he could acquire this degree but does it improve the situation NOpe, what does he do, well he apparently attended ITT here locally trying to acquire a degree in Engineering. This hasn't worked out for him yet, but it has eliminated him from having to support his 6 children.
I have no understanding. I don't care that this man is trying to find a job he is either a)Looking far beyond his capability b) Wont accept the jobs he is accustom to which is cooking c)Only wants to advertise for his so-called Motorcycle business and make money under the table. Regardless, I don't care. I don't make a dime extra, I get no aid from the state. I get no help from the Child Support office getting money for my son and he has learned how to play this system. As long as he shows up and acts pitiful or pays random amounts of $50 here and there, he can escape going to jail. So my understanding for his little jobless moment in time is NONE. Im tired of supporting his child all by myself, its unfair. I was expected to get ahead without an education and he has been blessed enough to be free to attend 2 schools and still come out with the same thing for his children, NOTHING.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
Dead Beat Parent Trap
09/22/2008 09/22/2008 $71.24 EMP $71.24 $0.00 Y
08/13/2008 08/13/2008 $47.56 EMP $47.56 $0.00 Y
08/11/2008 08/11/2008 $79.96 EMP $79.96 $0.00 Y
07/17/2008 07/17/2008 $57.78 EMP $57.78 $0.00 Y
06/06/2008 06/06/2008 $100.94 OTH $100.94 $0.00 Y
06/04/2008 06/04/2008 $35.94 EMP $35.94 $0.00 Y
06/03/2008 06/03/2008 $101.38 NCP $101.38 $0.00 Y
05/22/2008 05/22/2008 $53.11 EMP $53.11 $0.00 Y
05/07/2008 05/07/2008 $54.51 EMP $54.51 $0.00 Y
04/29/2008 04/29/2008 $130.06 NCP $130.06 $0.00 Y
04/22/2008 04/22/2008 $78.94 EMP $78.94 $0.00 Y
TOTAL:
Payment Received $811.42
Fee Amount $0.00
Payment Less Fee $811.42
I have actually had the luck of working with one of the best Child Support Systems in TN but for whatever reason Tony's Dad ORLANDO "Sorry" HALL has learned to milk this system and keep out of jail for years. He has learned that if he pays a portion of what he owes it looks like he is working on it so he just keeps on paying the portion and I am tired of it. SEND THIS MAN TO JAIL and I PROMISE he will find a way to get his child support caught up. In over 6 months this man could only manage to pay me $811, that is what many men in this country pay monthly. I don't care that he is going to school, he has been going to school for the last 10 years, graduate for your childs sake and move on with your life as an adult. Also, could you possibly ever earn enough money to get off the minimum wage setting. You haven't supported this boy since he was born, could you possibly try and get in there and do something before he graduates or die so we can get your social security. Yes I hate you and Im tired of paying for this boy on my own. You suck as a parent, Im sure you will suck as a husband and yep you pretty much just suck in general.
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